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How Do We Know Who The Enemy Is: Repirse

I’ve got a new dentist. She’s awesome. But I get ahead of myself.

I had my regular cleaning slated last week. Every six months if I need it or not. Never had a cavity, and every dentist I’ve had says that it’s pretty much going to stay that way. “It’s the gums you have to worry about,” they preach. So, I floss. Daily. Whether or need it or not.

I’ve often had a sneaky idea to play a prank on the dentist and walk into the office one day for a cleaning after having eaten a whole bag of Oreos. Smile, “ready for my cleaning!” Haven’t done it yet, but maybe in six months.

So, I walked into my dentist’s office last week expecting to see my regular person. Nope. The old dentist has been in the biz for nearly 30 years and she brought in a new doc since the last time I was there. So, I get a new hygienist and a new Doc. The doc, in order to get to know the patients, opts to do my cleaning instead of subjecting me to the new hygienist. I’ve never actually had my teeth cleaned by the Doctor.

As we begin, she introduces herself, and the usual casual banter. I ask her politely, where she was before this to get a sense of how much experience she has. It’s my subversive way to measure if I should put my teeth in her hands. Turns out she was a dentist for several years in the Military. Achieving a high rank, she got the free trip to the big kitty litter boxes we know as Iraq and Kuwait.

She was stationed in Falujia for a stretch. The only female around for miles. She worked on our GIs, as well as contractors working at the various bases. I asked her how that was, in a society that doesn’t really respect females in general, to rip out the teeth of some big burley Iraqi and various Arab males. She laughed.

I then asked, “how did you know you weren’t working on a terrorist?” She said, “Well, you couldn’t really think about that much. You had to put it out of your mind. Otherwise, you would drive your self crazy. But, I don’t know. I might actually have aided and abetted a terrorist by pulling an abscessed tooth or two. I’ll never know. That and I had no way of knowing if one day, some one with a bomb strapped to his chest wasn’t sitting in my chair. Yeah, I had to put those things out of my mind.”

Over all, she did a fantastic job. And I walked out of the visit with a new found respect for this petite, blond, rock hard Dentist who risked it all and survived. I told her she must have been very lucky, “because not many come out of Iraq whole.” She said, yes, indeed.

It brought to mind for me the question I raised a while back: How do we know who the enemy is in Iraq?

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17 Responses to “How Do We Know Who The Enemy Is: Repirse”

  1. Other than the fact that your new dentist is very brave, and that she did a good job on your teeth, what was the point of your question?

  2. I brush daily but forget to floss often. It pisses my wife off that she gets the cavities and I don’t. She is a dental freak.

    I never had braces either. Teeth came in straight. It’s that rich Arian stock I guess…

  3. SteveIl, if I have to explain it to you, really, I’m not going to bother.

    Steve - thanks for the dental run down.

  4. P.S. SteveIl, I did check with tom regarding your occasionally getting caught in the spam filter. It seems to have stopped for now.

    Blog on.

  5. P.S. SteveIl, I did check with tom regarding your occasionally getting caught in the spam filter. It seems to have stopped for now.

    Appreciate it. Thanks.

    SteveIl, if I have to explain it to you, really, I’m not going to bother.

    Why not? I think my asking you to explain it matters. After all, it wasn’t the idea of the U.S., and not the fault of the U.S., to have the terrorists not identify themselves openly so that we can kill them easily. It was the idea of the terrorists to not be easily identifiable . So, I believe you should explain the point of your question.

  6. were there terrorists there before we got there, Steve?

  7. Abu Musab al Zarqawi was there, Abu Nidal was there (and was being shielded by Saddam)…so, yes, there were terrorists there before we got there.

    No offense, but that is a silly argument. In WWII, there were no Germans in north Africa before 1941, only Brits and Italians. But as the Italians were getting their arses kicked by the British (30,000 British troops were pushing back a quarter million Italians from the Libya-Egypt border, past Benghazi, to Tripoli), the Germans intervened with Rommel and the Afrika Korps. I’m sure the British weren’t happy about it as they got a drubbing by the Germans, and that whole theater of operations went back and forth for the next year or so (until El Alamein). So the idea that there were no terrorists in Iraq (except Saddam and his own quarter million terrorists) until the U.S. invaded is the same as saying “the Germans would never have fought in North Africa if the British hadn’t beaten the shit out of the Italians”. Uh-uh. Ain’t buyin’ it.

  8. SteveIL,
    There are a number of IRA terrorists in the US. How about doing something about them for a change? Oh, that’s right. They’re not terrorists, they’re brave freedom fighters against the oppressive British government. Double standards much?

  9. Paul Watson said:

    There are a number of IRA terrorists in the US. How about doing something about them for a change?

    You’re not going to get an argument from me. I never liked the IRA, and always considered them terrorists (kind of like ETA in Spain, although they seem to be “nice” terrorists, since they tell officials about bombs about to go off, unlike the IRA). Considering the U.S. and Britain have access to extradite criminals, I don’t see a reason why IRA terrorists should remain here and not shipped back to Britain for trial.

  10. Were those men you mention terrorists before we got there? germans in Africa have no bearing on men who are Iraqi and now practicing terrorsists.   Might not the French Resistance be considered on par with men like those you mention?

  11. Were those men you mention terrorists before we got there?

    If you mean Zarqawi, Nidal, Saddam, and his Baathist henchmen, then yes, they were terrorists before we got there. Did Saddam think they were terrorists? Who cares?

    germans in Africa have no bearing on men who are Iraqi and now practicing terrorsists.

    My point was quite apt as they relate to the Al Qaeda vermin that have gone to Iraq since the invasion (to add on to the numbers, however large a number that was, that were already there). We beat Saddam in Iraq, and then the Al Qaeda scum went to Iraq to do battle against us. In 1940, the British beat up the Italians in North Africa, then the Germans sent Rommel and the Afrika Korps to do battle against the British. You aren’t suggesting that the British should have pulled out of North Africa once the Germans got there?

    Might not the French Resistance be considered on par with men like those you mention?

    Only if you take the side of the Nazis would you consider equating the members of the French Resistance as terrorists. Considering every view the Nazis ever had was wrong, I wouldn’t accept their opinion of the French Resistance (which was heroic, by the way).

    See, these terrorist vermin who pervert Islam are trying to establish a system that is about as deranged and evil as the Nazis ever were. I would say Saddam’s regime was just as bad, and he helped fund terrorism. Therefore, I also don’t hold the opinions of Saddam or the Islamist terrorist vermin to any merit when it comes to how they think of us. I would say the opinion of the current Iraqi government (and the people who put them into office, provided they aren’t terrorists or acting like gangsters; e.g., Sadr) are the ones that count.

    To continue to argue that there wouldn’t be terrorists in Iraq if we hadn’t gone there just doesn’t make logical sense. To show it’s illogic, let me add this: there wouldn’t have been terrorists in the U.S. murdering 3000 of our people if we hadn’t been here in this country. After all, they murdered our people because we were here. In effect, that is what your argument regarding Iraq is saying.

    Now, you asked a question regarding how do we know who the terrorists are, and I asked what the point of your question was. As I mentioned, it isn’t the fault of the U.S. that the terrorists aren’t making themselves easily identifiable so that we can kill them quicker. Still waiting.

  12. Might not the French Resistance be considered on par with men like those you mention?

    Did you get this from this Kos diary?

    During WWII, French resistance fighters were also called terrorists and insurgents by their German occupiers.

    As I mentioned, the opinions and beliefs of the Nazis are evil, and beneath contempt. So are those who are perverting Islam and murdering everybody they can.

  13. I don’t read Kos, actually Steve. Sorry to disappoint. I would buy your argument if it wasn’ laced with the typical jingoism that suggests that because we are the United States we are always right and the good guys. Moreover, your comments are laced with a bigotry that suggests you think all Iraqi’s are like Nazis. My point of this particular post is to pose the problem - that it’s difficult to know who the bad guy is, and if you are not careful, you may unwittingly be helping them - much like we aided Osama in his fight to repel the Russians in Afghanistan or how we sold WMD to Saddam to fight the Iranians. The geopolitical problem exacerbated by the W, Rove and Co foreign policy of shoot first, ask questions later really has sullied our reputation to such a degree that we are no longer seen as the good guys by default, but bad guys to begin with. And I fault the Administrati on in charge for making it so.

  14. Moreover, your comments are laced with a bigotry that suggests you think all Iraqi’s are like Nazis.

    Nice try. I don’t think I said that at all. You might as well say that I believe all Afghanis are Nazis. I did say that the terrorists not easily identifying themselves as terrorists for easy killing is not the fault of the United States.

    Now, to the point of your post as you say:

    My point of this particular post is to pose the problem - that it’s difficult to know who the bad guy is, and if you are not careful, you may unwittingly be helping them - much like we aided Osama in his fight to repel the Russians in Afghanistan or how we sold WMD to Saddam to fight the Iranians.

    Interesting.   So are you saying we should have let the Soviet Union handle the Nazis on their own, because they were allies of the Nazis between 1939 and 1941, and the Soviet Union could nowhere be considered a friend of ours before that? Maybe it is the fault of the FDR administrati on for not having the foresight you demand of the Bush administrati on that led us into this mess, don’t you think?

    The geopolitical problem exacerbated by the W, Rove and Co foreign policy of shoot first, ask questions later really has sullied our reputation to such a degree that we are no longer seen as the good guys by default, but bad guys to begin with.

    Uh-huh. I don’t believe the Nazis or the state-run media propagandizi ng to ordinary Germans ever thought of us as the “good guys” to begin with. I don’t believe the Soviet Union or the state-run media propagandizi ng to their people thought of us as the “good guys” except between 1941 and 1945. I don’t believe the terrorist Yasser Arafat or the state-run media propagandizi ng to the Palestinian people ever thought of us as the “good guys” to begin with. And I know that the current Iranian government and the state-run media propagandizi ng to their people have though of us as the “good guys” to begin with (calling us the “Great Satan” and shouting “Death to America” for 30 years is kind of a dead giveaway). Even though there are many people in the free countries of the world who aren’t thrilled with the United States, they sure don’t make up any kind of a majority in those countries; and, considering the pro-U.S. governments being elected, these people are becoming more of a minority. I think you’ll find a majority of free people who think the U.S. are still the “good guys” by default, and the only people who don’t think so are the tyrannical vermin able to tell their people what to think, and order their people not to dispute it publicly on pain of death. I don’t bother worrying about the opinions of evil tyrants who hate the United States since they would hate us anyway. Why you would is beyond me.

    The U.S. beat up the Germans, the Japanese, and the Vietnamese far worse than we have the Palestinians  , Iraqis, Iranians, Afghanis. Yet, we are the “good guys” by default according to the Germans and the Japanese, and we now have some trade relations with the Vietnamese. If you actually looked at things, you’d find the Middle Eastern people have been horribly brutalized by their own leaders, not the U.S.

  15. But steve, a few comments ago, you were suggesting that vietnam was the anti-example  , no?

  16. But steve, a few comments ago, you were suggesting that vietnam was the anti-example   , no?

    I don’t think so. I did search of this page for “vietnam” and it didn’t show up until my previous comment.

  17. SteveIL,
    However it does show up many times in your other comments on this blog, where you pontificate wildly about how Vietnam is an example of failure. You can’t then turn around and say it’s a success.

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